The Natural Thinkers team

Jacqui McDermid

Natural Thinkers co-founder and London trainer

Jacqui is a qualified primary school teacher and level 3 accredited forest school leader. Jacqui has over 20 years’ experience developing outdoor environments within primary schools and early years settings. During the last 9 years Jacqui has focused on developing the Natural Thinkers programme which she started in 2012.


Jacqui has a passion for the outdoors and how we as humans innately  connect to nature.  Currently Jacqui is enjoying  sharing nature even more with her two boys who love their own outdoor adventures and testing out new natural thinkers activities.

Jo Gordon

Natural Thinkers co-founder & London trainer

Jo is a qualified early years and primary teacher and has been a consultant and trainer for over 25 years. Jo works with teachers and practitioners in maintained schools and settings in the private, voluntary, and independent sectors to enhance and develop quality teaching and learning. Jo specialises in outdoor learning and has a level 3 forest school qualification. Jo co-leads on the implementation of the Natural Thinkers programme.


Jo is very passionate about promoting the health benefits of connecting to nature. Whatever the weather Jo will be running outdoors as the activity is fantastic for mental well-being and raising energy levels! 

 Jules Rogers

Manchester and north of England trainer

Jules became an accredited Level 3 Forest School leader in 2013 before becoming the Forest School Lead for a London Primary School.


In 2014 she took on the additional role of Natural Thinkers Consultant and Trainer, training staff across London and helping develop outdoor spaces for inner city schools.


Being outside in nature is where you will find Jules at her happiest, whether it be walking her dog in the Peak District or creating a wildlife haven in her garden.


“You’ll never quite know what you will find in nature and therein lies the magic”

Elise Sutherland

Natural Thinkers Assistant

Elise has worked on the Natural Thinkers project for a year, supporting Jo and Jacqui to provide training. During her time with Natural Thinkers, Elise has enjoyed nurturing the relationships that the project builds with childcare and education settings, and developing ideas for family activities.


Elise loves outdoor activities such as country walks and cycling, and is a keen advocate for being outdoors, acknowledging how it helps support her own well being.

David Wood

Business Manager

David has worked in the charity sector for 20 years, on a range of both national and area based programmes.  He has worked at NCB since 2008 which has included supporting the organisation’s business development function, and is the business lead for Natural Thinkers.  He also has a passion for hiking and being in the outdoors, enjoying green spaces and wild terrains.

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